Karl Marx


Politics… sure everyone has their own opinions, but Heartless Capitalist’s comments on the cohesion of politicians and wealthy elites in the blog Updating Political Power mirror a discussion of Karl Marx and the role of government in a capitalist society. Heartless comments on the Goldman Sachs example of a large corporation donating large sums of money for political campaigns in favor of legislation to “positively impact their business—regardless of political affiliation.” In 2008, according to www.opensecrets.org, Goldman Sachs donated just over 1 million to Barack Obama and is known for giving out some of the biggest bonuses post 2008 of any financial institution. Direct correlation or coincidence? You decide. Marx portrays capitalists as vultures out to exploit the worker class of society, but he says it is the role of the government to protect the workers, who lack means of production. It is the role of effective democratic governments to implement policies to protect the workers who cannot “pay” for their political interests, but it is also in the interest of politicians to align with corporations who offer campaign donations. If politicians become too pro business the government may become like Chile in the 70’s and 80’s and if politicians become too pro social welfare the government may fall like communist Russia. So with two ends of the spectrum, politicians must balance the wants of donating elite with the needs of the general population. However, I proposed to Heartless Capitalist the solution to this problem, remove money from politics. Money stimulates greed and I definitely don’t want a selfish politician. I’d much rather have an unbiased (based on money) politician out to do what is right. Although politicians today remain influenced by lobbyists, I see a better scenario where money (and the current leftover AIG leverage) is removed from government. Democracy should be focused on the people, not the expenses of a campaign.

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9 Responses to Karl Marx

  1. Jordi says:

    You should reach out to Heartless Capitalist and invite him to comment. His real name is Christian Mercado.

  2. Jordi says:

    Edit:
    However, I proposed to Heartless Capitalist the solution to this problem, remove money from politics.

    You need a colon after problem.

  3. Jordi says:

    If the politicians is greedy to take thousands of $10 donations from working class people and then raises the minimum wage, lowers education costs, and improves universal access to health care, is that selfishness?

    You are right that the line between corruption and support is fuzzy. If I give $100 to a politician who votes in favor of making “Jordi” the name of a new state, but she would have voted for it anyway, is my money “corrupting” her vote?

    Put another way, is the majority a “special interest”?

  4. Jordi says:

    OK, here is a organization working on “fair elections”

    Their idea:
    “Fair Elections is a practical, proven reform that puts voters in control of elections. Rather than being forced to rely on special interest donors to pay for their campaigns, candidates have the opportunity to raise small donations from their grassroots base to qualify for Fair Elections funding, which ends their reliance on special interest campaign cash. Being freed from the money chase means they have more time to spend with constituents, talking about issues that matter to them. When they enter office, they can consider legislation on the merits, without worrying about whether they are pleasing well heeled donors and lobbyists. Fair Elections would return our government to one that is of, by, and for the people—not bought and paid for by special interests. “

  5. Jordi says:

    All right, last one, if you imagine a situation in which you will decide the rules of donating to candidates before anyone has money to give, and everyone agrees to those rules, and then you distribute money to give away very unequally, is that more like Rawls or Nozick?

  6. knriggins says:

    I loved this post! I feel like politicians have become so removed from reality and I think it is awful that the strength of a campaign should be determined by having friends with big pockets. This emphasis on money (I think) drives candidates to make decisions based on the interests of their backers and not on the interests of those they are representing.

  7. ChrisB says:

    I completely agree. As a person that doesn’t trust politicians in general and believes they all having secret motives, I couldn’t agree more that money needs to be taken out of the equation. We should cap the amount of money they can spend and not have all of these loop holes. Politicians are suppose to look after their voters, but if money can get someone into office more effectively than actually winning people over by helping them then we have a problem.

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  9. Craig says:

    Karl Marx argued that revolution was impossible in a society that lived on the family farm. He believed that urbanization and industrialization were both requirements for a Communist revolution. In the 1920s, half of all Americans lived on a farm. Family farms that remained free of debt, enjoyed full-employment during the 1930s. Those that used debt to expand, were destroyed.

    The Federal Reserve Bank is a Marxist and Fascist institution. It creates the debt necessary to enslave a Republic, and the politics that are required to increase our indebtedness. Whether this country spends money on social programs (Socialism), or military expansion (Fascism), we end up borrowing money from the Federal Reserve. As an added bonus, the privately owned corporation also charges us interest to use its Federal Reserve Notes as our currency!

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