Throw Out Bad Apples!

Make kids Appreciate their education by…

throwing out the bad apples.

Every person has the right to an education. And for clarity’s sake, I agree with this. But education is also a privilege. Kids in other countries are not as fortunate. The idea that our nation demands every individual have the right to a basic education is amazing, but kids now a days don’t appreciate it. They have no idea how much value there is in an education and their attitudes show it.

I’m tired of kids skipping class, teasing others for having done the WHOLE assignment, and making sarcastic comments in class. It is important in education to foster an environment of openness and acceptance. I think it is time to start treating high school kids like the adults that they are. I’m tired of teachers and administrators giving second, third, fourth, fifth chances to kids who are never going to try. By the high school level I say no more second chances. Students at that age should respect the teachers who have committed their lives to bettering theirs. If a student gets in a fight, tells off a teacher, fails multiple classes (for reasons like absences, lack of participation, or missing homework), or is caught selling drugs I say give them the boot. It is useless spending time, money, and effort on someone who doesn’t care. I say send them to vocational school to learn a trade and get a job. I’d be willing to bet that when they have kids of their own they will tell them to appreciate their education!



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15 Responses to Throw Out Bad Apples!

  1. KCasty says:

    While I agree that there are many younger students out there who take their educations for granted, I think maybe a “second chance but no more” policy should be implemented in high school rather than a “one and done” policy. While it is true high school students are no longer kids, they still make mistakes and deserve some sympathy and understanding. On the other hand, some offenses are serious enough that they should be subject to immediate dismissal… some kids are a lost cause, and actually would be better of on the life path of trade school. Not everyone is cut out for the “normal” high school and college paths.

  2. Jordi says:

    Is vocational education a second-class education? I think that is often the perception and probably reality. That always struck me as sad and unfortunate. Many teen-agers will get more from a high school career tied to a career path. However, why is that so looked down? Don’t shop kids have souls too? Don’t they deserve Shakespeare, history, and the chance to contemplate the big questions in life?

    • Cander says:

      Jordi I’ve thought it interesting that today in high school you do not see vocational educational classes nearly in the amount as in the past. It seems now most people in the U.S. that you must take a college prep track to be successful or happy.

    • RickE says:

      I agree that a vocational education can be very useful and can help a person get decent job. I think it is looked down upon because its really settling for mediocrity, you’re basically never going to see someone with a vocational education change the world or do something revolutionary. They are going to be pigeon-holed into one moderate career, so once you start your vocational education, people see it as settling for something less than great.

      • Jordi says:

        But why does it have to be that way? Are you saying it is settling for mediocrity? Or that is how it is perceived?

        One problem is that much of the post-secondary area is filled with for-profit trade schools which have a much sketchier reputation due to their for-profit status.

      • tesoman says:

        Jordi I think it is just perceived that way by society and that is what Rick is trying to get at. For years now we have found new ways to improve transportation, the way we get our news, the way we socialize but we are yet to come up with a way to improve the education tier that exists today. Everyone is expected to go through elementary, Jr. High, High-school, college and then enter the job force. But there are countless people who have chosen to not follow that path and have suffered because society has told us that they are “mediocre” candidates and that book smarts will always overcome street smarts. But looking at numerous cases of people who have dropped out of college or high-school and still made it, is there reason to believe that there is more than one way to be successful? Are we living in an educational system that is archaic?

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  4. tpm011 says:

    I agree that some of the second, third, and forth chances some kids get are ridiculous, but where would they go? would they go on the streets and not learn the way to become a productive member of society?

  5. mnickels says:

    I think second chances should be given to kids who have messed up one time, but maybe no more than that. I also think most of the kids who are absent all of the time or skip class and don’t do homework also may have something else going that may prevent them from putting their best foot forward. If teachers gave them the boot after they have one wrongdoing, then that kind of seems like they’re giving up on the student when they really need more help or maybe more guidance in the class or outside of school.

  6. katiebaum13 says:

    I agree. I believe kids should be given a second chance and sometimes even more. Although in high school kids are expected and should start acting more responsibly and mature, but at the same time, one must consider the fact that kids mature and grow up at different paces and it would not be fair to one kid to be penalized for something that is sometimes out of their control. Instead of giving the boot to the children who may misbehave or take education for granted, we should put more focus on these kids in making sure that they get their head straight and start going in the right direction.

  7. Jordi says:

    I don’t know quite what Kelly had in mind as “bad apples”, but a quick search found this CNN article describing how about 16% of 16-24 year olds are dropouts. Would you have guessed that the high school drop out rate was that high? See, high schools don’t want an 84% graduation rate, or worse, so they may find ways to “ease” the harder-to-educate youth out and away. Did you think one in 6 high school students are “bad apples”? Or, to extend the metaphor, are they apples that got tossed out of the orchard for not fitting the mechanical harvesters?

  8. tesoman says:

    I honestly think it comes down to the parents and having them educated about the importance of education. As our society family structure continues to deteriorate (broken up families, abuses in families, etc increasing) families are forgetting to place a value on education and I believe that children are taking that to mean that education does not have a value anymore. I remember the days when if I was sick my mother would still tell me to get to work because of how much she valued education. Unless I was minutes away from death I would be in class at 7:45am Monday morning. Looking at society, children are able to convince their parents that they need to miss school for excuses such as “I just don’t want to go to school” which is a joke. If you let your child get off school with an excuse like that, how do you expect them to take school seriously in general.
    To solve this, I would have all parents come to PTA meetings at some time during the week (to accommodate their work schedules) and they should be educated on their academic duties as a parent. I was reading a book in class where a parent was quoted as saying, “Why should I read to my little girl….I send her to school so that they can do that!” this really upset me because it is a clear indication that some parents today just don’t realize that in order to progress children need to be constantly challenged to learn. In addition, given updates to parents on their child’s progress as many parents leave it too late to take action before they find their child already in this apathetic state that is hard to change…..thoughts?

    • Alyssa Haglund says:

      I completely agree with you that the problems stem from the family and that a PTA program for parents could basically stand for an education for the parents.

      I do not think that the “Bad apples” should be thrown out though. I believe that it is our country’s duty to educate kids and not give up on them, but instead help them through these times. There is such a strong correlation between level of education and income level, that it will not only better them, but our entire society.

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